Public Water Supply Systems Seminar

    Public Water Supply Systems Seminar

    On-DemandApril 17, 2019
    Lori Burkert

    Speakers

    Lori Burkert

    Entech Engineering, Inc.

    Project Manager / GIS Manager at Entech Engineering, Inc.
    Mrs. Burkert is a professional geologist with 18 years of experience in water resources, water supply and wastewater systems. Her expertise includes source water investigation and protection, geographic information systems (GIS) mapping, water distribution system operations and maintenance, wastewater inflow and infiltration control programs, water quality, data management, regulatory compliance, field inspection and site work, and environmental consulting.
    Ms. Burkert previously worked for the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection as a public water supply inspector. She received a B.S. degree from Elizabethtown College in Environmental Science, and an M.S. degree from Lehigh University in Earth and Environmental Science, with a focus in (geo)chemistry.
    She served as the President of the Pennsylvania state chapter of the American Water Resources Association (PA-AWRA) in 2017 and 2018.
    Entech Engineering is a full service engineering firm with six office locations throughout Pennsylvania. We serve utilities, government, commercial, manufacturing, and higher education organizations. Entech offers civil, environmental, MEP, structural and architectural services, helping our clients make more informed decisions to achieve their goals.


    PUC Regulation: Where Do We Go From Here?

    PUC Regulation: Where Do We Go From Here?

    On-DemandJune 13, 2018
    Chuck Cohen + 3 Other Speakers

    Speakers

    Chuck Cohen

    Maine Public Utilities Commission

    Deputy General Counsel, Maine Public Utilities CommissionMr. Cohen has been with the Maine Public Utilities Commissionfor more than 27 years.  He is assigned to the Electricity and Gas Division and over the years has specialized in rate plans, rate cases, service quality and reliability issues, reorganizations and transmission planning cases.  Before coming to the Commission, Mr. Cohen worked at Idaho Legal Aid Services.  He is a graduate of the University of Rhode Island (B.S. ’76) and Boston College Law School (J.D. ’79).  Mr. Cohen was appointed to be the Commission’s Deputy General Counsel in March of 2016.

    William Harwood

    Verrill Dana, LLP
    Mr. Harwood is Co-Chair of Verrill Dana’s Energy Practice Group and has devoted most of his 38-year career to representing public utilities before state and federal regulatory agencies.  He has represented electric, gas, water and telecommunications companies in more than 60 major cases before the Maine Public Utilities Commission and Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, including rate cases, prudence investigations, management audits, merger approvals, requests for Certificates of Public Convenience and Necessity, and rule making proceedings.  Mr. Harwood counsels utilities on proactive strategies to both anticipate regulatory developments and efficiently manage the regulatory process.  Mr. Harwood has Seminar Information been extensively involved in traditional rate setting issues, including CWIP in rate base, attrition, accounting orders and cost of capital.  He has negotiated long-term alternative rate plans which include automatic inflation adjustments, service quality penalties, and recovery of mandated or exogenous costs.  Mr. Harwood has also represented developers of new transmission lines in securing Certificates of Public Convenience and Necessity and wind developers in negotiating Interconnection Agreements and securing adequate transmission capacity for delivery of the output.  Mr. Harwood has served as Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of Maine School of Law, teaching utility regulation and administrative law.

    William Hewitt

    Roach Hewitt Ruprecht Sanchez & Bischoff, P.C.

    Roach Hewitt Ruprecht Sanchez & Bischoff, P.C.During more than 20 years of practice, Mr. Hewitt has earned a reputation as one of the most highly regarded energy and public utility attorneys in New England.  He represents participants in the natural gas, electric, telecommunications and water industries in Maine, Massachusetts and New Hampshire on a broad array of commercial and regulatory matters.  In the regulatory arena, Mr. Hewitt has handled nearly every type of public utility proceeding, including reorganizations, management investigations, rate and rate design proceedings, service territory disputes, CPCN proceedings, infrastructure expansion and gas safety matters.  He works closely with clients to understand their business and regulatory objectives, and he develops creative strategies designed to achieve the client’s goals within the regulatory framework.  Mr. Hewitt also represents clients in transactional matters involving the purchase and sale of energy and related products in wholesale and retail markets, including long-term contracts designed to promote state energy and environmental policies.  An engineer before pursuing the law, Mr. Hewitt understands the complexities of utility distribution systems and leverages that knowledge when advocating on his client’s behalf.

    Mitch Tannenbaum

    Maine Public Utilities Commission

    General Counsel of the Maine Public Utilities CommissionMr. Tannenbaum has been an attorney with the Maine Public Utilities Commission for more than 25 years and has experience in a variety of utility and energy market issues.  These include work on: utility rate, rate design and alternative rate plan proceedings; adjudications and rulemakings to implement electric industry restructuring; competitive solicitations for electricity supply, such as standard offer service; renewable energy promotional programs; and natural gas pipeline expansion matters.  Mr. Tannenbaum served as Deputy General Counsel from 2002 through 2014 and is currently the General Counsel of the Maine Public Utilities Commission.


    Pumping and Piping Design Standards and Codes

    Pumping and Piping Design Standards and Codes

    WebinarFebruary 6, 2020
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Pumping and Piping Systems

    Pumping and Piping Systems

    WebinarMarch 11, 2021andMarch 12, 2021|
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Pumping and Piping Systems

    Pumping and Piping Systems

    WebinarFebruary 10, 2022andFebruary 11, 2022|
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    SeminarJanuary 26, 2017
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    SeminarJanuary 25, 2018
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    SeminarJanuary 24, 2019
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    Pumping and Piping Systems Webinar Series

    SeminarFebruary 6, 2020
    George Walters III

    Speakers

    George Walters III, PE, CPD

    Mechanical Engineer at BMH Engineering LLC

    Mr. Walters is a professional engineer and is certified in plumbing design through the American Society of Plumbing Engineers. His responsibilities overlap into the professional engineering areas of civil engineering, mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, fire protection engineering, and process engineering. He performs calculations, sizes equipment, and prepares plumbing design and construction documents. Mr. Walters is a member of the Atlanta Chapter of the American Society of Plumbing Engineers (ASPE). He earned his B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from Georgia Tech.


    Purposes and Benefits of Demolition and Deconstruction

    Purposes and Benefits of Demolition and Deconstruction

    WebinarJanuary 15, 2020
    Bradley Guy

    Speakers

    Bradley Guy

    School of Architecture and Planning

    Mr. Guy is an associate professor of practice and director of the MS in Sustainable Design program, School of Architecture and Planning, The Catholic University of America (CUArch), Washington, DC. He is also the director of the Center for Building Stewardship, and director of the MS in Facilities Management program at CUArch. Mr. Guy’s teaching and research focus on sustainable and healthy materials and C&D waste, life cycle assessment, prefabrication and modular design, design to use reclaimed materials, design for deconstruction, and building deconstruction. In 2005, he co-founded the Building Materials Reuse Association, and he has conducted deconstruction projects throughout the US. Mr. Guy was a member and chair of the USGBC Materials and Resources Technical Advisory Group for the development of LEED v4, and is currently a member of the USGBC LEED Social Equity Pilot Credit Working Group, and the AIA Materials Knowledge Working Group. He is also a US representative of the US ASTM TAG to the working group for development of the ISO 20887 Design for Adaptability and Disassembly Standard. Mr. Guy was co-editor for the book “Construction Ecology,” and co-author of a book on building deconstruction titled, “Unbuilding: Salvaging the Architectural Treasures of Unwanted Houses”. He also wrote the on-line “Design for Disassembly in the Built Environment” guide for King County, Washington. Mr. Guy has a M.S. degree in Architectural Studies from the University of Florida, and a B.Arch. degree from the University of Arizona, and he is an associate member of the AIA and a USGBC LEED AP BD+C.


    Quality Control and Quality Assurance in Heavy Civil Construction

    Quality Control and Quality Assurance in Heavy Civil Construction

    SeminarJuly 27, 2016
    Jack Czyzewski

    Speakers

    Jack Czyzewski

    John Civetta & Sons, Inc.

    John Civetta & Sons, Inc.Since 1994 Mr. Czyzewski has amassed over 22 years of experience working on some of the largest, most complex and highly successful New York City projects such as the NYCT/MTA 63rd Street Connection, Atlantic Avenue Terminal Reconstruction and the East Side Access Project. He started his career as a structural and geotechnical designer of innovative underpinning systems and gradually progressed into upper levels of field project management. Through his years of work on various New York City projects, Mr. Czyzewski has become intimately familiar with all facets of construction management such as successful planning and scheduling, coordination of various trades and subcontractors, and inspection and monitoring of ongoing activity. Although he is most knowledgeable in the area of heavy civil construction (all manner of excavation, steel installation, concrete placement, track work, street utility work, paving, etc.), Mr. Czyzewski has also planned, supervised and inspected specialized work such as elevator and escalator installation, plumbing and ventilation, electrical systems and architectural finishes. Mr. Czyzewski is a member of American Society for Quality Control and earned his B.S. degree in Civil Engineering (Concentration in Structural Engineering) from Manhattan College.


    Quality Control and Quality Assurance in Heavy Civil Construction

    Quality Control and Quality Assurance in Heavy Civil Construction

    On-DemandNovember 18, 2016
    Jack Czyzewski

    Speakers

    Jack Czyzewski

    John Civetta & Sons, Inc.

    John Civetta & Sons, Inc.Since 1994 Mr. Czyzewski has amassed over 22 years of experience working on some of the largest, most complex and highly successful New York City projects such as the NYCT/MTA 63rd Street Connection, Atlantic Avenue Terminal Reconstruction and the East Side Access Project. He started his career as a structural and geotechnical designer of innovative underpinning systems and gradually progressed into upper levels of field project management. Through his years of work on various New York City projects, Mr. Czyzewski has become intimately familiar with all facets of construction management such as successful planning and scheduling, coordination of various trades and subcontractors, and inspection and monitoring of ongoing activity. Although he is most knowledgeable in the area of heavy civil construction (all manner of excavation, steel installation, concrete placement, track work, street utility work, paving, etc.), Mr. Czyzewski has also planned, supervised and inspected specialized work such as elevator and escalator installation, plumbing and ventilation, electrical systems and architectural finishes. Mr. Czyzewski is a member of American Society for Quality Control and earned his B.S. degree in Civil Engineering (Concentration in Structural Engineering) from Manhattan College.


    Quality Control and Sampling

    Quality Control and Sampling

    WebinarJanuary 13, 2017
    Elias Toubia

    Speakers

    Elias Toubia

    University of Dayton

    Dr. Toubia is an assistant professor with the University of Dayton’s School of Engineering where he teaches classes in mechanics, civil engineering materials, design of concrete structures, masonry design, design of timber structures and structural dynamics. His research interests include innovative structural design systems, composite materials and experimental testing, behavior of reinforced concrete and masonry structures. Dr. Toubia is a member of the American Society of Engineering Education, the American Concrete Institute, and The Masonry Society.  Dr. Toubia holds a US Patent and an outstanding paper award from the Masonry Society Journal. Dr. Toubia has extensive experience in designing complex structures and several publications in structures and materials featured in major peer-reviewed journals. 


    Quality Control and Sampling

    Quality Control and Sampling

    WebinarJanuary 12, 2018
    Elias Toubia

    Speakers

    Elias Toubia

    University of Dayton

    Dr. Toubia is an assistant professor with the University of Dayton’s School of Engineering where he teaches classes in mechanics, civil engineering materials, design of concrete structures, masonry design, design of timber structures and structural dynamics. His research interests include innovative structural design systems, composite materials and experimental testing, behavior of reinforced concrete and masonry structures. Dr. Toubia is a member of the American Society of Engineering Education, the American Concrete Institute, and The Masonry Society.  Dr. Toubia holds a US Patent and an outstanding paper award from the Masonry Society Journal. Dr. Toubia has extensive experience in designing complex structures and several publications in structures and materials featured in major peer-reviewed journals. 


    Railroad Engineering and Safety (series)

    Railroad Engineering and Safety (series)

    WebinarOctober 1, 2021andNovember 5, 2021|
    Avinash Prasad

    Speakers

    Avinash Prasad , PE, PLS, PP, PhD, MSCE, MSEM, F. ASCE, MAREMA

    Dr. Prasad is a licensed professional engineer, land surveyor, and professional planner with more than three decades of professional experience in civil engineering, surveying, and management field since his graduation. He has recently earned Ph.D. degree from New York University in Civil Engineering. Dr. Prasad has double M.S. degrees in Civil Engineering and Engineering Management from New Jersey institute of technology and an B.S. degree in Civil Engineering. He has more than 2000 hours of continuous professional education as instructor/participating professional (1990-2022) excluding formal education. Dr. Prasad is a New Jersey state certified emergency medical technician (EMT), emergency medical responder (EMR), fire fighter (FF). He is a fellow of American Society of Civil Engineers and also an active member of several professional organizations such as: AREMA, PMI, AISC, NYSAPLS etc. His technical papers were accepted in multiple ASCE journals and various other organizations like ASCE, AREMA & NYSAPLS conference proceedings for presentation and or publication multiple times.


    Reading, Interpreting and  Writing Land Descriptions Workshop

    Reading, Interpreting and Writing Land Descriptions Workshop

    WebinarApril 29, 2022
    Barry E. Savage

    Speakers

    Barry E. Savage, PLS

    Survey Products Group Manager with Tennessee Valley Authority in Chattanooga, TN

    Prior to his service at TVA, Mr. Savage was in private survey practice for 10 years specializing in dispute resolution and expert witness services. He has surveyed several disputed state boundaries to resolve jurisdictional conflicts. Mr. Savage is an adjunct professor at Cleveland State Community College where he teaches courses in boundary law, geodesy, GIS, and surveying fundamentals. He has researched and retraced the historical surveys of Henry David Thoreau and has published several articles on the subject. Mr. Savage teaches exam review and continuing education seminars at various state and local conferences across the country.


    Reading, Interpreting and Writing Land Descriptions Workshop

    WebinarDecember 17, 2020
    Barry E. Savage

    Speakers

    Barry E. Savage, PLS

    Survey Products Group Manager with Tennessee Valley Authority in Chattanooga, TN

    Prior to his service at TVA, Mr. Savage was in private survey practice for 10 years specializing in dispute resolution and expert witness services. He has surveyed several disputed state boundaries to resolve jurisdictional conflicts. Mr. Savage is an adjunct professor at Cleveland State Community College where he teaches courses in boundary law, geodesy, GIS, and surveying fundamentals. He has researched and retraced the historical surveys of Henry David Thoreau and has published several articles on the subject. Mr. Savage teaches exam review and continuing education seminars at various state and local conferences across the country.


    Reading, Interpreting and Writing Land Descriptions Workshop

    Reading, Interpreting and Writing Land Descriptions Workshop

    On-DemandOctober 15, 2020
    Barry E. Savage

    Speakers

    Barry E. Savage, PLS

    Survey Products Group Manager with Tennessee Valley Authority in Chattanooga, TN

    Prior to his service at TVA, Mr. Savage was in private survey practice for 10 years specializing in dispute resolution and expert witness services. He has surveyed several disputed state boundaries to resolve jurisdictional conflicts. Mr. Savage is an adjunct professor at Cleveland State Community College where he teaches courses in boundary law, geodesy, GIS, and surveying fundamentals. He has researched and retraced the historical surveys of Henry David Thoreau and has published several articles on the subject. Mr. Savage teaches exam review and continuing education seminars at various state and local conferences across the country.


    Reading, Interpreting and Writing Land Descriptions Workshops

    Reading, Interpreting and Writing Land Descriptions Workshops

    WebinarJuly 28, 2021
    Barry E. Savage

    Speakers

    Barry E. Savage, PLS

    Survey Products Group Manager with Tennessee Valley Authority in Chattanooga, TN

    Prior to his service at TVA, Mr. Savage was in private survey practice for 10 years specializing in dispute resolution and expert witness services. He has surveyed several disputed state boundaries to resolve jurisdictional conflicts. Mr. Savage is an adjunct professor at Cleveland State Community College where he teaches courses in boundary law, geodesy, GIS, and surveying fundamentals. He has researched and retraced the historical surveys of Henry David Thoreau and has published several articles on the subject. Mr. Savage teaches exam review and continuing education seminars at various state and local conferences across the country.


    Real Estate and Environmental Considerations in Energy Production

    WebinarApril 21, 2021
    Mary Beall + 6 Other Speakers

    Speakers

    Mary Beall

    Attorney, Perkins Coie LLP in Madison, WI
    Ms. Beall focuses her practice on project development, primarily in the energy and infrastructure industries. She has been involved in negotiating contracts for investments in renewable energy projects and conducting due diligence review. In addition, Ms. Beall has negotiated asset purchase agreements for several hundred megawatts of wind and solar projects, and she has helped clients secure regulatory approvals to build over $500M worth of utility infrastructure in various states. These include transmission lines, wind farms, and solar facilities. She also counsels clients regarding compliance issues under the Clean Air Act (CAA), the State and Alternative Fuel Provider Fleet Program, and other state and federal energy and environmental statutes.

    Anne Beaumont

    Senior Counsel with the Environment, Energy & Resources practice at Perkins Coie LLP in San Diego, CA
    Ms. Beaumont has extensive experience representing clients in environmental, regulatory and litigation matters involving natural resources, tribal issues, telecommunications, land use and the siting and defense of large-scale infrastructure and energy projects. She represents utilities, energy developers, and others in the development of cutting-edge energy and infrastructure projects. Ms. Beaumont has been involved in landmark transmission line and renewable energy projects in California and the Southwest.

    Christina Bonanni

    Attorney, Perkins Coie LLP in Washington, D.C.
    In her representation of both private and government clients, Ms. Bonanni analyzes international, federal and state environmental legal regimes and compliance, negotiates and drafts environmental covenants and land use restrictions and negotiates and develops environmental regulatory regimes. Ms. Bonanni’s experience also includes conducting environmental due diligence and drafting memoranda analyzing environmental law. Additionally, she has represented Fortune 500 companies in a range of corporate and outsourcing transactions, primarily in the technology industry, negotiating, analyzing and drafting outsourcing, service and licensing agreements.

    Karen McGaffey

    Chair of the firm’s nationwide Environment, Energy & Resources practice, Perkins Coie LLP in Seattle, WA
    Ms. McGaffey has over 25 years of experience practicing environmental law. She assists clients with project development, permitting, compliance and regulatory matters under state and federal environmental and land use laws and advises on the environmental aspects of corporate and real estate transactions. Ms. McGaffey also represents clients in environmental litigation, including Superfund cost recovery and natural resource damage actions, citizen suits, government enforcement actions and lawsuits challenging permits and regulatory developments.

    John Morris

    Of Counsel, Perkins Coie LLP in San Francisco, CA
    Mr. Morris helps businesses navigate complex transactional, regulatory, and project development matters arising under federal, state, and local environmental and natural resources laws. He represents public and private companies, private equity firms, developers, financial institutions, joint ventures, public-private partnerships, non-government organizations, and other landholders. Mr. Morris’ experience includes water quality, water supply, waste management, remediation, air quality, natural resources management, product stewardship and sustainability. He has significant experience managing environmental, health, and safety (EHS); environmental, social, governance (ESG); and water resources issues in connection with corporate mergers, financing transactions and real estate investments.

    Stephanie Regenold

    Partner, Perkins Coie LLP in Portland, OR
    Ms. Regenold counsels clients on development of major infrastructure projects, including natural resource and renewable projects, highway and public and private transportation projects and commercial development. She advises on both public and private land development and multiple-use projects, from initiation through completion, including projects within the oil and gas, mining, timber, and renewable wind, solar and hydro industries. Ms. Regenold advises clients on mining claim issues, such as extralateral rights, and royalty and lease disputes, in Montana, Idaho, Alaska and other western states. She performs due diligence and title reviews of large land acreages for natural resource and energy project development, acquisitions, divestitures, and financings.

    Julie Wilson-McNerney

    Counsel with Schwabe

    Ms. Wilson-McNerney is of Counsel with Schwabe. She provides legal advice to public- and private-sector developers building commercial, industrial, and infrastructure projects in a wide range of settings, from high-density urban centers to remote rural areas and coastline zones. Ms. Wilson-McNerney also defend project approvals before local and state administrative review boards and in federal and state court, when necessary. Whether managing the interlocking pieces of generational infrastructure projects or landmark renovations, she leverages her network of consultant relationships to support strategic, efficient, and successful project development. Ms. Wilson-McNerney represents private and public owners and developers of large retail, office, sports and entertainment, industrial, energy, multifamily residential, and other commercial projects. These projects often entail navigating complex regulatory requirements; appropriately scaled environmental review; and thoughtful negotiations with agencies, Native American tribes, and project neighbors. She also collaborates with clients on water supply and water rights issues in project development and assists in land use, environmental, and water rights due diligence for corporate and real estate transactions. Ms. Wilson-McNerney earned her J.D. degree, summa cum laude, from the University of Arizona, James E. Rogers College of Law.